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Postby busted on Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:11 pm

I went to the barn yesterday to do the normal. Brush, lounge and ground drive Joey. But plans changed when he caught on to things real fast and didnt care about me jumping around next to the saddle...

Sooooo... My friend Angel showed up and encouraged me to try to get on Joey. So I did. I put my foot in the stirrup and jumped up and down, NOTHING out of him. So I pulled myself up, STILL NOTHING! I laid across his back, the sucker started to walk off with me hanging on his side. Then I went and mounted up on the other side and laid on his back that way. He was a total champ!

Then my friend suggested I should swing my leg over and sit on him because he was being so good. (the whole time I was doing this I was talking to Angel telling her way I was doing this and that) So I swung my leg over and sat on him. No one holding him, out in the wide open arena. He started to dance and act like he wanted to go. I got a bit nervous thinking he might take off with me and start bucking. I talked to him calmly and asked him to stand so I can get off.

I got off and gave him tons of praise. Angel went and got my phone so she could take pictures for me so I had proof. :lol:

I went to get back on and he didnt want to stand still for me to mount on the right side. So I went to the other side and he was solid. I mounted up and off we went walking around the arena.

He took a few unsure baby steps but after a minute he was walking around like he has done it his whole life! I was grinning from ear to ear! We walked around the arena for about 10 minutes. We changed directions, stopped, started again, worked on stopping and even backed up. He learned my back up cue today ground driving. I had the bit in his mouth but the halter over his bridle and reins hooked to the halter.


I have been on could 9 all day!


I am planning on heading back over tomorrow morning before work so I can put his second ride on him!

Here are some pictures of Joey's first ride!

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I was so scared he was going to take off with me, but he was so level headed and easy going. I had nothing to worry about at all! As we plodded around the arena he was so relaxed and could care less about me being on his back.

I am so glad I took my time with him and worked on trusting each other first. I knew he would tell me when he was ready for the next step and he did!
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Postby sara.ray on Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:36 am

Congrats...Oh Rachel, your a very pretty woman.What kind of phone do you have that takes pictures so well.When i take pics on mine, you can not even tell what i am getting.lol
But congrats for you and Joey man and you guys look great :D
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Postby busted on Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:46 am

:oops: Thank you Sara! My phone is a Nokia 5300. Its a nice phone but the speaker quality on it is not so good. People on the phone can hear everything around you when your talking to them, everything but you. lol I got it because of the picture taking ability. I figure its easier to have a phone that takes awesome pictures then have to pack around both a phone and camera. I always have my phone with me so I always have my camera with me. :wink:

I am gonna head out in a bit and work with him some more and see if he is ready for ride #2 today. Its so nice out I am thinking I might have to take the whole week off work to play with my ponies!
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Postby busted on Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:55 pm

We have completed 7 successful rides so far! No bucks, bolts, rears or complaints from Joey... Well I take that back... He is getting bored fast just walking around the arena and working on bending, backing, turning, stopping and standing still. He tried to trot with me on Wednesday. I wasn't ready so we went back down to a walk. I am going to try to get out there tomorrow (depending on how sick I feel, I have been sick sick all week and the last three days have been the worse so I didn't go out there) and see how he does with poles on the ground maybe low on a jump so he has to walk over it. He is very sluggish and I don't want to push him to trot right now, I don't want him to figure out he can buck with me on his back. He is still a bit spooky too, but thank god his spooks are just him stopping and staring at the object. He also doesn't seem to like the idea of steering with the reins on the bit. I don't to try while on his back just in case he freaks out. I tried on the ground next to him but he was fighting me. He rides nice in just his halter and reins hooked to it. So I was going to try a hack a more and see how he does. He didn't like the side pull at all, kept acting like it was eating his face. If he doesn't like the hack a more then I may need some tips on how to start him in a plain snaffle. He takes it so good and doesn't play with it like a newbe but I have always had it in and the reins hooked to the halter. I may hook reins to the bit and halter and play with both just to see how he reacts. Any ideas??
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Postby ptownevt on Sun Apr 13, 2008 6:53 am

I've only trained 3 horses to ride and maybe it's because I ride English, but I always started them right from the beginning with a bit. The bit came well before getting on them. First I would put the bridle on with no reins and just let them wear it for a while, from a few minutes to a couple of hours in their stall or another small space, like a round pen. Once they were relatively accustomed to the bit, I used a bridle with a bit every time we worked on groundwork. I would use a halter over the bridle for lunging until they were quit comfortable, then attach the lunge line through one ring, up over their head and snapped to the outside ring or to a strap under their chin that attached to both rings. I always long lined with a bit. They would be wearing a bridle with a bit for all groundwork at 2 and ridden at 3.

I have also found that bit selection and fit are super important. My favorite bit for a young horse or any horse with a sensitive mouth is a French link snaffle. It is double jointed with a smooth oval shaped link in the middle. (Not to be mistaken for a Dr. Bristol, which has a more rectangular link that will impact their tongue for a bit of correction.) This bit will not hinge up into the roof of their mouth. The next bit I would go with would be a solid snaffle. Snaffles with a single joint hinge up and can really hurt by hitting the roof of a horses mouth. I also pay attention to the thickness of the bit. As a general rule anything thicker is softer than something thin, but you also have to consider the amount of clearance a horse has in their mouth. I have found that many pony sized bits are much too thick to fit comfortably in a pony's mouth. My daughter's pony is quite fussy about his bits. I finally got him a double jointed Myler snaffle. It has like a roller in the middle instead of the link of a French link and the two pieces on either side of the joint are curved to fit the contours of his mouth and thin to fit comfortably. He goes nicely in this bit, but will object strenuously to bits he doesn't find comfortable.

Probably more than you wanted to read, but I hope this helps.
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Postby busted on Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:55 am

Thank you Pam! I started out like you said him wearing the bit during ground work and warm ups after he got his teeth done. He is fine with wearing it. No fussing with it, only the first time it was in his mouth but that lasted about 5 minutes. He plays with it when I first put it in, I figure to warm it up a bit. Its more of a rolling it around in his mouth type of play. But his mouth is totally quiet and nice when we are lounging and drive lining. The lines are attached to the halter not the bit. I am going to see how he does with the drive lines attached and see how he does. I will try my french link snaffle I bought for Cabo. We are also going to try the hack a more too today.

I am using a normal horse size bit. 5 inch I think. He is about 13.3 hands but has a Arab size head. I would rather not ride in a bit if he will ride nice in a hack a more but want him to be able to go either way just so he will be ready for anything. I am mainly going to use him for trails and maybe a few schooling shows. It all matters on what he enjoys doing. I am just happy he is gentle and sane, I was told he was a nut case.
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Postby ptownevt on Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:25 pm

If he is 13.3 with an Arab head, a 5" bit may be a bit big for him. You can use a string through their mouth to measure; just slip a piece of baling twine in their mouth; take it between your fingers on each side of their mouth and slip it out.

Mouthing the bit is not a bad thing. The point of the sweet iron bits if to get the horses to mouth them, apparently rust tastes sweet. Folks think that keeps their mouth soft. What you don't want is him opening his mouth against the bit or carrying his head up high or behind the vertical.

Sounds like you're on the right track.

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Postby ptownevt on Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:28 pm

Oh, I forgot. Personally I don't care if my horses use a bit or not, but my daughter is in 4-H and the rules state that horses must wear a bit except for jumping hackamores (I think). But even then the judge can penalize for not having a bit at their discretion. Funny that the only horses allowed to show in any type of hackamore are English horses.
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Postby busted on Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:28 am

I had thought the same thing about his mouth being a pony size but with the bit in his mouth it fits the same as it does a "normal" size horse. Its funny. He has a big head and small body! He is pony size but horse size everything else. The headstall I used on Cabo fits him perfect.

I hopped on him yesterday cold, no lounging or ground driving to see how he would react. He could care less. I had reins hooked up to the bit and a set to the halter just to be safe. We worked on steering with the halter first then I switched to the bit (just the plain snaffle thats broken in the middle) and he moved into it at first but relaxed after about 2 minutes. We were plodding around the arena with no problem using just the bit. I am going to see how he does without the halter on today. I have a few different headstalls, western and english. So we will play around and see what he likes. I know he doesnt care for the english saddle and how it cinches up, but he may like the english headstall better. Never know. We will also try my french link snaffle too.

I will measure his mouth with a string and see how big it really is. Thanks Pam...
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Re: I wanted to share something with yall

Postby busted on Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:23 pm

We are off and trotting now! Ride 10 was a success today. He even tossed in a little protest buck but had to do tight circles and didn't like it, so he moved off my leg the next time I asked him to. A few people who board with me were watching me ride today and said he looks like he was started before but just allowed to get away with a lot. He knows leg cues (a little) and holds himself like he has been rode for years. We are going to hit the trail behind the barn here in the next few rides and a schooling show or two in the next month or so, when ever they are. I did some relaxation work on him today after our ride. He turned into putty when I was rubbing his belly. His head almost on the ground, breathing extra slow, and his tummy gurgling up a storm. If I can borrow a trailer I want to take him up to Fall City in the next week or so to see how he does in a new environment. I sold my trailer last week with the impression I was buying a better/newer trailer from a fellow boarder but it was sold out from under me. So I am trailerless now, until I can get another one. I am one happy momma, I couldn't have asked for a better horse to gain my confidence back with and on.
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Re: I wanted to share something with yall

Postby busted on Fri May 23, 2008 8:36 am

I posted up on my board that Joey is at a point that I feel that he is ready to find a new home. But the person has to know what they are doing, he will be good for a lesson horse with a bit more work. My plan all along was to get him going under saddle and safe to go to a new home. I can afford board for both the horses but it gets tight at times. I also have cut down my barn time now that its camping season and we got a new wheeling rig. I will be out getting my Samurai stuck in the mud most of the summer and I know that Joey longs for daily attention and workouts. I am splitting up my time with the horses and my family so they dont think I dont want to spend time with them. We have only walked and trotted working on bending, leg cues and him relaxing. He is soft and sensitive and loves to work. He pouts when I go to untack him. I am going to be very picky as to who adopts him and will be flexable on his adoption fee if its the right person. I just want him to be happy and have the kind of life he deserves and craves. Let me know if you or anyone you know might be interested...
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Re: I wanted to share something with yall

Postby myhorsefaith on Fri May 23, 2008 10:30 am

Hey Rachel-

Has anyone other than you ridden Joey? I'd be happy to come down to help you:

a)take a video/ pictures anto help promote him..and/or

b) ride him as well so you have an evaluation from 2 people.

Like you I am pretty slammed but I can probably carve out a little time. Just let me know. :D
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Re: I wanted to share something with yall

Postby busted on Fri May 23, 2008 2:22 pm

Hey Ally

No noone else has rode him but me. I only trust one or two people at the barn to ride him but they come out at different times then I do and they are busy with their own horses too. I am sure he would love to have another person ride him. :P

Yeah if you have time I would love some help getting things together to place him. I dont want to just put an add up on Craigslist, way to many crazies and flakes out there. :roll:


His personality screams lesson horse. He loves attention and to get rode. He cant get enough. He is so willing to learn and please! :)

Let me know when you would have time. I can be at the barn anytime of day. He is good during feeding time. :wink:
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