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Not eating after a float

Postby veltaw on Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:17 pm

Hi,

I'm worried about my guy, he's a 10 year old POA and had his teeth floated yesterday by the vet. He was sedated and the vet did a power float, pretty standard with no tooth pulls or anything. That was yesterday morning, and this evening he's still not eating. He still had most of his hay from this morning left over, and he's not even interested in the new stuff. I tried soaking his Safe Choice pellets, but he didn't want that either. I gave him a handful of alfalfa leaves which he tried to chew twice and then just let them fall out of his mouth. I'm really worried about him, I figured he'd be a bit sore today but he's also lethargic and seems distant. You can tell he doesn't feel great. I gave him Bute yesterday and today per doctor's orders (for a foot issue), but that doesn't seem to be doing anything for his mouth discomfort. I'm calling the vet in the morning, but am really worried about him. Everyone says tooth floats shouldn't hurt, has anyone had similar soreness with their horses the day following a float?
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby myhorsefaith on Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:29 am

Are you sure he's not colicking?

A friend of mine lost her horse post-float. The attending vet gave her horse more sedative than he could handle. He was a rescue, and we didn't quite know his history. He was skittish about everything, and so the vet dosed him with quite the sedative-cocktail. When he colicked we found out that he had a rupture, and needed to be put down. His colic was 48 hours after the float, though, not right away.

One day I asked another vet friend of mine what he thought happened...and he said he had seen horses colic due to too much sedative for their systems :(

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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby cat_67 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 7:36 am

My first thought, too, is an allergic reaction to the sedative. Is he drinking? Will he graze?
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby veltaw on Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:37 am

Thanks for the replies! That was my first thought, too. I checked him this morning and he wasn't interested in apples (highly unusual) and barely interested in his Safe Choice. But when I got to work the barn owner had left me a message saying he had eaten well this morning, though he still had a bunch of hay when I went out. He's in a dry lot so I'm not sure if he's interested in grazing, can't really tell if he's pooing or not either since by the time I get out there I'm not sure what's fresh. The vet's coming out today though. He said it could be a reaction to either the sedatives or the vaccinations he got at the same time. Ugh, poor guy.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby ponygril68 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:07 am

When my horse got his teeth done it took him about 2-3 days to act normal. He went off his feed as well. Some horses are just babies and have zero tolerance for pain. He may just be one of those.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby ptownevt on Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:02 pm

The only time one of my horses had a problem after a float was because his tongue got chewed up by the file. He had a hard time eating for about a week. First and last time for a float from that vet. Other than that I've never had one have the slightest bit of reaction to a float except for the better. Maybe it's because they're done with a file and not a power float. I don't know.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby veltaw on Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:11 pm

I just checked on him again and he's doing much better since this morning. He's eaten his hay, had water, and there is fresh manure in his pen. He called to me and looked for treats when I came in, so he's definitely getting back to his normal obnoxious self. The vet suggested he may have had an icky reaction to the vaccinations he got the same day. At any rate, I'm relieved. Phew.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby majxmom on Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:04 pm

Veltaw, have you given him some Bute? That usually helps tremendously. I can hardly stand to float my horses' teeth anymore. It used to be that you had a guy come out with a couple of rasps on handles, and the time that it took was limited by his human endurance. But now they tranq the horse up, pry open his jaws too wide with a speculum, grind away for hours with a power file, and leave with no instructions for post-care. God, this makes me mad. I only have my horses done about every three years now because I am so upset every time. You can tell that they are not normal for weeks afterward because the hinged speculum gives them TMJ.

I used to have an old-timer from the racetrack come over and do them for $75 a piece, and he would do them all in one day by himself. Now I have to have the vet, the dentist, and assistant, it's $400 plus the vet charge, and they seem damaged for days. :evil:
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby veltaw on Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:17 pm

Yep, he's on Bute too, though for a different issue. The week before the dental work he'd been ouchie on his front feet, and moved on to a slight limp. No idea what's going on there. I had the farrier and vet out separately, both found hoof sensitivity (though in different hooves of course). The vet thinks he's most sensitive in the left hind (which makes him seem like he's limping on the right front), but he's not sure what it could be so he's on Bute for a week to see if that does anything. I only had him about six months and he's been kind of prone to stumbling the since I've had him, with a wicked time picking up the right lead. I just thought he was out of shape and one-sided. I'm hoping I haven't been riding him in pain this whole time. Argh.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby busted on Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:05 pm

I used to use the vets who do the power float and all the fancy equipment but its just to pricey now for me. When I had Cabo's teeth done almost 2 years ago he had to be sedated 2Xs and he was still on high alert, and had to have his whole mouth redone. His teeth were so bad, its a wonder I could ride him with a bit. They were likely never done in his life prior to being rescued. He recovered okay, his whole face puffed up from all the work done. I gave him a pinch of bute to take the edge off once he was fully awake. He was fine after and ate normal. It was like 2 hours of work and about $500. :shock: :shock: Never again! The barn I board at now uses an old timer vet who still uses the rasp and human power to float teeth. But if they need more intense work then we call in the new timers! When I got Joey's teeth done last month it ran me $85 for the float, vaccines, sedative, and attempted sheath cleaning.(he was fully sedated and lashed out when the vet tried to clean his sheath, I am able to do it now with little fuss! :roll: ) Joey was fine after the drugs wore off, but the little sedative he was given almost dropped him to the ground, he was given half a horse dose. Such a wimp! I will keep using the barns vet for floats and basic stuff but will use the "pricier" ones for the big emergencies. Lets hope I dont have any any time soon... Knock on wood!
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby myhorsefaith on Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:03 am

Rachel- what vet are you using that did it the "old way?" yesterday we had a vet emergeny at our barn and it was a bear to try to get a vet out...our barn is about 10 minutes from yours. So i'm trying to help Valerie gather a contact list for this type of stuff.

NW Equine was out on a call in the middle of nowhere
Tooman called me back too late
Dana ended up coming out from Monroe to see this horse

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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby veltaw on Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:58 am

Btw how is Joey, Rachel? He's so cute, good find! How big did he end up being? He looks about the same size as my guy.
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Re: Not eating after a float

Postby busted on Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:56 am

Ally we use Dr Dave Smith. He is out of Ravensdale I think. He is a good guy but old school. I usually use North West because Dr De Ward knows me really well and I trust him. But Dr Smith was good with Joey and the barn owner has used him for about 25 years same as her shoer.

veltaw thanks he is cute!! Joey is doing great. I created a board for him and my filly. The link is on my signature. He is between 13.3 and 14.0 hands and is starting to fill out nice. He was full of worms and was taken off the Alf. He dropped some weight about 50 pounds and we are working on getting it back on the right way. I am so lucky to have found him. A total blessing and has helped me re gain my confidence again.
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