Grounded!!

This gorgeous black stud was part of the bucking stock string that was at the Yakima Feedlot in December. Will enter training the beginning of May 2006.

Grounded!!

Postby Juliane on Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:43 pm

I'm sorry, Rory. I just don't know what to do with you! It sure is a good thing you are so adorably huggable! Otherwise, you'd get your bootie smacked!!!

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Rory is the most amazing rescue horse I've ever worked with. I absolutely love him to pieces and enjoy working with him the most of all the horses currently in training (well, maybe it's a tie between he and Ace). Anyhow.... in an effort to improve Rory's lifestyle, we took him out of his small paddock that he and Emma had been in and put them both in the part of the pasture I'd subdivided yesterday afternoon. I put them out with Patience in this area, which also had the round pen and Ace in it.

Immediately, Rory started acting like a stud, in the manner of herding both Emma and Patience around, not letting them near the round pen or Ace. Patience got tired of this and within 20 minutes had found a way out of the pasture and back in with the main herd. *sigh*

I figured I'd let Patience be for the night, but then noticed an hour later, Emma had followed suit. So now, Emma and Patience were in the large pasture, while Rory was pacing the fenceline, calling out to his mares.

This morning, Baby was brought home, so I decided to put him out with Rory. They immediately were joined at the hip and frolicked around, kicking up their heels and bucking. They were like two peas in a pod. I'd never really seen Rory play like that before :) It was adorable.

However, within a few hours, Rory was chasing Baby around very aggressively, much like he was with the mares. I watched for a few hours, but he never stopped and it just seemed to get worse. :(

So, in an effort to bring peace to the entire herd, and to remove some of the quantity of horses from the main pasture, I decided to put Rory in the round pen and let Ace out. :shock: So far, things are working out perfectly. Ace doesn't act studdish in any way. He is very laid back and docile. He's like the kind old grandpa. Everyone gives him respect, but he's never aggressive.

However, Rory is throwing a major coniption fit about being locked in the round pen. He is pacing back and forth and attempting to charge the panels when any horse gets too near the round pen.

I've never seen a horse be so aggressive. The ironic thing is that he can be chasing another horse away (head down low, ears pinned), then see me, and he turns from devil to angel is 6 seconds flat. Of course, when he's in angel mode, he's irresistable!

I'm a bit concerned. Do I just keep him alone? Do I let him out with the other horses and let him learn social skills? Do I have a vet check him and his castration? (He doesn't try to mount the mares, just protects and herds them.) Is this going to affect his marketability? And if so, what can I do to improve it?

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Re: Grounded!!

Postby RockinCircleC on Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:40 pm

Juliane wrote:I'm a bit concerned. Do I just keep him alone? Do I let him out with the other horses and let him learn social skills? Do I have a vet check him and his castration? (He doesn't try to mount the mares, just protects and herds them.) Is this going to affect his marketability? And if so, what can I do to improve it?


Juliane, you have reason to be concerned. My suggestion would be to find a BIG place with lots of older geldings and have him turned out for a year or two to be taught manners and respect. He's been a stud and sequestered for so long that he doesn't know how to be social. If you have any friends east of the mountains (or in ID, MT or OR) that run large herds on rangeland in the winter, that might be a good time to send him and have him be taught how to be an average horse in a social/herd environment. I guarantee ones he learns he's not top dog he'll learn to chill (at least a little bit) around other horses. Also, he may not be able to be turned out with mares, just geldings and other boys. Especially if all he was ever used for in his past life was breeding (I don't recall his whole story).

JMHO of course.
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Postby Juliane on Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:53 pm

That's a good idea, Liz. I sincerely thought that Patience would "teach him some manners", but Rory got the best of her fairly quickly :( I will have to check with Nickie and see what she'd like to have done with him. I just went and checked on him... Ace, Patience, Baby and Sydney are all hanging out munching happily, while Rory paces back and forth :( Argh.
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Postby ptownevt on Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:26 am

My 21 year old gelding is the same way. The first time I brought Lily home, he chased her mercilessly until she went through the electric fence and went home by herself. :x

When I brought her back a week or so later, I sectioned off the pasture so he couldn't get to her. He ran at that fence, sliding to a stop with his teeth bared for hours. He would actually bite the air in her direction with his ears pinned. Lily quickly figured out that he couldn't get to her and after a bit just stood, munching hay and watching him. It was kind of funny. Lucky thing that Storm is totally respectful of a hot wire. Anyway by the next morning they were grooming each other over the fence. Now they're practically inseparable, the alpha couple, if you will. Storm does okay if he's allowed to get used to a new horse in side by side areas separated by a fence. When they're all together he is definitely the alpha male. He herds them all where he wants them, but isn't so bad they can't be together. Its funny, for a long time it was just Storm and the pony, Chico, so Storm developed a habit of making Chico go into the barn/run-in with him at night. Big bad boy needs someone to keep him company in the dark. :lol:

Its an issue with Rory but not insurmountable. A lot of boarding stables here where I live don't turn horses out together anyway so it wouldn't be much of a problem. None of our stables pasture board.

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Postby seahorse on Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:56 am

I have seen this in 2 horses that were gelded late in life after breeding careers. I have also seen it in a "proud" gelding that had never been bred. All of the above horses thrived in boarding situations where they were in stalls and turned out individually with no access to other horses although they could see them. All bonded very closely to their owners(I would guess that they took the place of a "herd") and were really nice horses to work with. I do not think it will affect his marketability as he is really fancy and good with humans- it wil just take the right person. Lots of people are happy to board and he will do great with the solid foundation you are giving him. You are right that it is a good thing he is soooooo cute! :D
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Postby Tockita on Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:35 pm

Chester was gelding at 1 year, spent 14 months in BLM corrals and is a pushy mini me to the "lesser" horses.
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